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Hellfire: The Origin of Queen Chrysalisby *Sorelstrasz

Fan Art / Digital Art / Vector / Movies & TV

Thanks for the 1,000 faves guys!

This is now my most favorited, viewed, and commented deviation! You're all awesome

Phew. Done. I just want to let you guys know that for the past month, this is what I have been working on. To be honest, I think it was worth it. This was actually a project I had to kind of one-up my previous In the Dark of the Night picture from a while back, which was my first MLP related picture ever. This is also my first time vectoring entire ponies... the body, armor, hair, everything. So I realized I needed another Chrysalis picture, because I feel she deserves it and that's where this idea came from. So ever since then, I've been essentially busting my ass over this. The majority of these panels took several hours to do, mostly due to the vectoring, but yeah. I hope you enjoy this treat from me, guys! It was awesome to do, but I really need a nice, long break now.

Enjoy!

Not bad for my first pony comic, I say.

Edit: Had to flip a panel of Chrysalis because it was inverted. Should be fixed now!

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Critique by ~mathemusic Jan 6, 2013, 3:52:57 PM

Vision - I don't know whether this was intentional or not, but I really liked the irony. One of the key features of My Little Pony: Friendship is magic is that good beats evil using love. This comic, however, shows that evil sometimes wins using love and the terrible things done in the name of love. Queen Chrysalis began and ended with love.

Originality - This was a spin-off of a movie so it's not totally original. But, ever since "A Canterlot Wedding" was released; I have seen no comic or fan-fiction explain Chrysalis's origins.

I have also never seen a spin-off of "Hunchback of the Notre Dame"; though, I've never seen that either so how would I know?

People have been trying to justify Chrysalis's invasion with: "She was just trying to do the best thing for her people" But no-one ever thought that she got into that situation by doing the best thing for her people.

Technique - It is very easy to imagine this being an actual episode - art-style wise anyway. There are some brilliant parallels "A Canterlot Wedding": wide eyes opening in the sixth-to-last panel; the crown falling in the panel after that.

Text was used perfectly: nothing important was covered up; it wasn't over-used; the dialogue was exactly what would be said if it were in an episode.

Impact - I don't read very many serious comics because I get depressed afterwards. But this changed my attitude. I'm going to be reading a lot more serious comics because I have just been shown how great they can be.

Overall - Lovely comic and I can't wait to see more!

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Critique by ~Thejboy88 Jan 5, 2013, 1:00:57 AM

When it comes to the quality of the artwork, I have made it known many times that I give great credit to those who are able to make their art emulate the style and feel of the original source material. And this comic certainly does that as, through the use of vectors, the art style and images seem like something the show’s artists themselves might produce. However, the artist has made it clear that this comic is in fact a compilation of many separate images produced by several other artists, and as such they cannot receive all of the credit for it. Having said that though the imagery is still impressive and certainly not bad to look at, so at the very least it’s a goo-looking comic.

In addition to that, there is also the point that this comic is based on a pre-existing work, that being the Disney adaptation of “The hunchback of Notre Dame”. This, being one of my favourite films, obviously means I’m going to be somewhat biased. However, I do like this comic as it manages to successfully capture the feel of both the dark ton of the story as well as the dramatic imagery of the “Hellfire” song in particular. Overall, I’d say it’s very in-keeping with the feel of the source material.

Originality though is an area where the comic suffers. Like I said, this comic was based on a pre-existing work. And not only that, but the work it was based on was itself an adaptation of a story made by someone else. So it’s, in effect, an adaptation of an adaptation. But even if that wasn’t the case, I wouldn’t even be able to clam that it’s the first time I’ve seen this concept added to something MLP-related as I’ve seen this scenario of “Hellfire” played out with MLP characters by other artists. But, just because something’s been done before doesn’t mean it’s not good on it’s own merits, and this comic is certainly good in spite of all that.

All-in-all I’d say that this is a very good comic. While the art and story are not the best I’ve seen, it’s certainly a very good comic and you can tell that a lot of effort went into making it. It’s a worthy entry from the artist and more-than-worthy of being seen and appreciated by many.

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~nursejoy7 May 13, 2013

ooh I love it the mix is great

~Laurentiusje May 9, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist

she became evil because she give her life for ponyville
she's a hero

~Tundradogsong May 7, 2013 Student Traditional Artist

The art style reflects MLP style precisely. The pacing of the comic panels I find to be very well done.

The visual queues are great at delivering the information necessary. The design of Pre-Chrysalis is appropriate. The "King" of the Changelings doesn't seem as well done. He lacks a regal look.

Well, I see a tribute to a famous Disney Villain Song, not a bad song to pick, it certainly gets the blood boiling. However I am going to have to dock points off originality for that. You could have at least tried to reimagine the reference material and make it your own, make it original despite being derivative. All you did was change a few words around.

The thing that bothers me is the setting and the time. Firstly, I don't think as far as MLP:FIM timeline goes, this event taking place in Ponyville makes no sense. Twilight Sparkle, being the fastidious bookworm that she is, would have known about any previous conquering armies and razing of the town. TwiSpar would also have known about any previous ruling, Royal Ponies in Ponyville and probably would have drawn the connection between this "Beata Maeria" and Queen Chrysalis in the show itself. This realization draws me out of the story because it clashes with the continuity of the show. To add on to this, Granny Smith would also have known about this Beata Maeria, and since she didn't relate any of that in her history lesson of the founding of Ponyville, this adds to the mess of a story line you made up. On top of that, wouldn't Princess Celestia have some memory of royalty in Ponyville? Hell, I can see Fluttershy and Derpy in this comic, making it nearly contemporary to the current MLP series timeline. This MAJOR EVENT would be very close in the consciousness of the ponyfolk of Ponyville. Yeah, placing this in Ponyville was a mistake, too many timeline issues.

How would I have solved this problem? Simply make up another town or city somewhere else in the empire. Even Manehattan would have been a better choice.

On top of that, having set this event so close to the present doesn't seem very realistic considering the MLP:FIM universe. I can imagine this scenario happening where Queen Chrysalis was once a regular pony turned spiteful by evil magics. I don't know the age of Chrysalis, nor her life expectancy, maybe Chrysalis is only between the ages of 20-50, or maybe she is 1000+ years old. I cannot say. But I cannot imagine her becoming completely gung-ho with the Evil Queen set-up so quickly. The way she works, I would imagine that Chrysalis would have been cunningly planning the invasion of Canterlot with her Army of Changelings for decades if not centuries. For Chrysalis, this is all a chess game to her, everypony is a pawn. So again, we find the timeline to be clashing with the MLP:FIM Universe, and this drags me out of the story.

*Sorelstrasz May 7, 2013 Hobbyist Digital Artist

I thank you for the kind words. Let me go into some detail with your concerns.

I wanted to preserve the song, but meld it into an MLP setting and I did exactly that. This Changeling King takes the role of Frolo and Chrysalis takes the role of Esmeralda. If I were to have entirely redid those lyrics, I would have ruined the essence of the song in the first place... something I refuse to do.

However, you argue a great point with the timeline. It was not intentional to have it set so early, but I was constrained on time and wouldn't have been able to produce this if I didn't take some source backgrounds and vectors. I wanted a lot of viewpoints and last I checked, there are only a rare amount of backgrounds from other cities and areas outside of Canterlot and Ponyville.

The vectoring process I put into as much effort as possible with what time I had. I dished out a lot of vectors to a nearly show accurate level (or at least, this was the intention). My problem, as I keep reiterating, is time constraint. I only had a month to really work on this due to our winter break of college and I spent long hours almost every day on it. Did I get all of the vectors I wanted done, no. I take forever vectoring, but I'm still learning and trying to be more efficient.

So I had to make some shortcuts and take some pre-made vectors and incorporate them. It does take a part of the effect away, but no head-canon is perfect.

So yeah, thanks again for an in-depth critique. It's nice to get some good feedback aside from compliments (not that I don't welcome that) since it helps me build and create better things. Speaking of which, I'm moving more into video making and I will be releasing my first ever pony video in a few months. Expect it to be a big project like this was, but since I have a lot more time to work on it, it will be even more top notch and I will have really nailed down a perfect version of my interpretation. I'd love to hear your feedback on it once it's out!

~Tundradogsong May 7, 2013 Student Traditional Artist

You are very welcome for the critique. I like discussing art. I always listen to advice, whether or not I agree with it because it helps to inform me on if I am making correct artistic choices. I can totally understand the issue of time constraints.

I wish to see your future pony video, and critique that too

*Sorelstrasz May 7, 2013 Hobbyist Digital Artist

Well I have a preview, at least: [link] XD

~AlicornBob May 6, 2013 Student General Artist

*singing along*
"Like fire! Hellfire!
This fire in my skin!"

Oh...

Very good comic indeed.
And I got plenty of feels too!
(Never enough feels, bro...)

*Sorelstrasz May 6, 2013 Hobbyist Digital Artist

I strive feels

~trana-blay5 May 2, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist

They need to add this into the show. THEY NEED TO ADD THIS INTO THE SHOW!!!

Just how well this scenario works is just.... I CANNOT EVEN!

*Sorelstrasz May 2, 2013 Hobbyist Digital Artist

Your reaction was mine when I first had the idea.

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